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Discussion in 'Marriage and Relationships' started by Sourdiesel, Aug 19, 2009.
Re: Why the fuck are Wisconsin women so stuck up?
Seriously.....maybe yer too stoned most of the time to see very far or straight. If you miss Az. mebbe you should go back there. That is unless you wanna stay in Wi. and start yer own chapter of polygamists with yer two wives...the Palmer sisters.
Lighten up dude, try smilin an sayin hello and leave it at that...you'd b surprised how many would like to continue a conversation beyond that. Try going to a library or online and read up on "Body Language" most ppl say more without speaking.
Laundrymats and grocerystores are a good place to drop a line and see if any fish bite.
Peace n pot TTH
Haha trust me I've done a fair bit of traveling myself, and I'd like to kindly inform you that meeting a girl has nothing to do with where you're at geographically.
It actually does a little bit man. Of course it's not that big of a deal, and its not black and white, but it does make a little difference....
Different regions of the country have different cultures (fact). These different cultures tend to produce certain attitudes in certain places (obvious extension of fact). Hence, the west coast's reputation for being laid back; the east's rep for being uptight; the midwest's rep for being hardworking & wholesome... etc....
Surely you wouldn't deny the fact that different cultures exist in different regions... It is only logical to assume that these different regions' and cultures' respective populations would have slightly different tendencies towards certain attitudes... That's Sociology 101.... so you seem to have a problem with the jump from that statement to the assertion that women tend to be more stuck up in the midwest than in Cali. Which I guess is somewhat understandable. But, judging from my experiences, I would say that this is probably more true than not, although I hate to generalize like that.
What do you think the results of a study would be? Have the same dude go walk up to random groups of girls in California and go from there... then do the same in Wisconsin... you really think the results wouldn't be any different? What sourdiesel asserted is that in the midwest, it would not go as smoothly, when you don't know somebody in the group or don't have a mutual friend or whatever and you just walk up and say hi. They tend to be more guarded about that sort of stuff.... But that's all we're saying here - no need to get all defensive for your region's girls. We weren't calling them all fat ugly stuck-up bitches.... just some of them haha j/p
You ARE aware that....making friends means going up to people OUTSIDE your comfort zone?
Sounds to me Sour was looking for one of those west coast women in Wisconsin and keeps getting frustrated when the gals he's LOOKING for, are nothing like the ones at home. So instead of trying to figure a way to make friends, he came here and ranted. Thats fine, he's allowed his opinion.
If you're from Minnesota, and you go to Florida and expect to find yourself a woman who's just like the girls at home, chances are, unless she moved down from MN, you're out of luck, basically the same way everywhere you go, no one is like from home, thus making friends is more fun because there is a whole world of diverse people out there.
Just imagine this, people from America are traveling all over the world at any given moment, MANY of these people waste little or no effort making friends along the way, maybe they wont see them again for years, but if played right, connections will last a lifetime. I'm not sure what exactly Sour is looking for in his rant, but I get the vibe he's looking for a woman similar to home who's down for his similar interests. Yeah its frustrating when you're thousands of miles away from home, but the attitude he had about it seemed all wrong.
As far as I know, Sour is a cool guy, nice and respectful, but if he's looking to make friends, its not that hard, now if you're looking for a girlfriend, then thats where it gets tough.
I actually posted my rebuttal as a sarcastic joke of a reply, as usual for me, but I guess I did make some valid points.
No I DON'T believe most women in Cali have had something done to them before 21, but you can't deny that a lot of women have bought themselves better bodies out there.
So don't worry, be happy, and if you hold a door for someone and smile and say HI and they just walk past you without even uttering a thank you, smile as you let the door close on their ass *shrug*
Well, nah man, it seems to me that SourD did try to figure out a way to make friends - he was out of his comfort zone, and he threw himself out there and tried to meet people. The people he encountered when he tried to make friends were colder than he anticipated, unlike chill Cali girls.... then, after trying, he came here and voiced his opinion.... he didn't just start ranting "instead of trying to figure a way to make friends," like you said he did. He tried first... then ranted.
I agree with everything you said there, until you got to the part about SourD having an attitude problem. How does his attitude "seem all wrong?" To me, it seems like SourD has had the right attitude about trying to make friends.... because he was in fact actively trying to make friends... he made a genuine effort... going out to parties, meeting new people... being himself.... throwing himself out there... really that's all you can do in this situation. I don't see how his attitude was "all wrong"
so the way I see it, the bad attitude you speak of was nonexistent when he was attempting to make friends... he had a great attitude, making a genuine effort to throw himself out there and make new friends. the supposedly bad attitude came later, in response to to being repeatedly rejected. and in my opinion, it was not so much of a bad attitude as it was just an honest observation.
It's not like he had a sour attitude (pun intended) from the beginning and just never even tried to make friends in the first place.... he went out and he did try, which means IMO that he had the right attitude.... then he got rejected, and that prompted his post here, which you seem to have interpreted as an indicator that his attitude was bad through and through.
So then I guess you were just exaggerating, or being sarcastic, or something, when you said literally exactly that in your last post?
"California = beautiful weather most of the year, very "visual" culture, most women have had SOMETHING done to them by the time they're 21 (boobs, noses, you name it)"
Well, please excuse me for failing to catch such obvious sarcasm over the internet.
Yo Powder hit the nail on the head.
I am just tired of constant rejection. Some girls don't even acknowledge me, and i approach them with the utmost respect and courtisy. It almost like they dont want to meet new people sometimes. They won't even tell me what im doin wrong if im even wrong at all. Every one that doesn't agree with me right now keeps tellin me to do this, do that, like i haven't been tryin every concievable method to find out what works. Well i've tryed alot and nothin seems to work yet.
I have friends here. Thankfully my cousin is alot like me but grew up in Milwaukee and lived here his whole life, been a Techno DJ for 15 years, and all his friends are pretty much my friends. The whole rave scene up here has a similar vibe as the out west vibe im used to. So thankfully for that i have people i can party with.
But... Its the Girlfriend part im lookin at. 5 years is a long time without female companionship(and i dont mean just sex) and im not just lookin exclusivly for the "gorgeous blondes" i try to talk to all sorts of girls. I believe that to start any kind of relationship both parties have to be attracted to each other, and physical attraction is a big part of that. All im saying is that Wisconsin is "slim pickin's"
Alot of the good ones are already takin. and the rest aren't to keen on "talkin to strangers"
I know about the whole body language thing. I was trained in the Army on interrogation, from that i know that body language is somethin like 56% of communication what we say is only 7% and and how we say it is like 37%. .
Powder....you stick around long enough and read more posts by me, you'll realize 99% of my posts are sarcastic, witty (not always) one liners/replies and aimed for humor. Its all good man.
Sour, ah its the girlfriend thing you're looking for. Figures, I had problems with that all my life too so I can't really help U there. I found my future wife in Florida of all places and i'm in MN.
When I was speaking about Sour's "all wrong" attitude, I meant his original post about the "out of shape" girls and the other girls attitudes.
If the woman doesnt seem to be interested, dont waste your time, move on, theres plenty women out there you just gotta be patient.
ive lived in iowa city my entire life and the women here are great. dont know about wisconsin tho. the midwest is the place to be, you guys dont know a damn thing about the midwest. goto madison or chicago or minneapolis or iowa city and you will see what im talking about. most people that ive met that came to iowa from somewhere else have always told me that iowa women have the fattest bootys. but i dont kno how much truth there is to that. ill tell you this tho. most midwest people are hard workin humble folks. if your some cali person walkin into town and your acting like a surfer or something obviously nobody here is gonna take you seriously, because in the midwest we dont know much about glitz and glamour and surfing and all that good stuff. we just know about hard work and cold winters. and tornados. but if you think there arent plenty of very attrative women here than you must of spent to much time up in hickville northern wisconsin.
You shouldn't have to apologize for mentioning what does or doesn't attract you. I've been up to the Chicago area a few times and the women there look heavier. My buddy who lived up there agreed.
I think part of it is being in a warm weather state you get alot more chances to notice the women in shape. Which means your eyes do not notice the ones out of shape.
There are some people who don't like "outsiders" wherever you go but after 5 years? I'll lean towards the problem being you and not presenting yourself in the proper manner. Not saying you are nimrod or anything I don't think you are going about things the correct way.
That's a very rare problem in your age group, although it is probably caused excessive masturbation and pornography. You see, young men that habitually masturbate starting at a young age, especially with pornography, do not develop the natural confidence or social skills to attract girls. This leads to rejection and a subsequent anger/hate against all women.
It's sad that you are now blaming your inability to get erections onto women of an entire region of the country ... For years, young girls all over the world have grown up with insecurity about their physical appearance ... because of attitudes like yours .. and they are now starting to recognize and reject behavior like yours, and that is what you're experiencing.
The problem is yours ... check yourself ... work on your social skills .. starting with respect ..
I think i'm the only girl here who wasn't offended. . . Well, since i'm not angry about your comments about women (it's expected, all men do it.), I propose going shopping alot more, alot of older/still in their twenties, women go there, and maybe if you didn't just randomly say hiya and look like a creeper, they might talk to you. Then again, your going to have to have a good opening line, not the cheap hi shit. Bump into her with some force, and send her groceries flyin, then apologize, and help her pick them up, then have a little more conversation, exchange some laughs, then THEN then my friend, maybe you'll get a date.
or you could try just not being a douche. . . that always works.
I am wondering the same thing PigSnout....perhaps it is you Sour. No isnsult intended. I agree with Pig, no apologies needed for what attracts you and what doesn't. I believe it was your blanket statement peeps reacting to dude.....Good Luck with you r search..
fabulously voluptuos and happily sated....
Being from Cali and have traveled around a little, I understand what you're saying.
Some states people just give you the biggest unwelcome feeling ever, like we are tainting there pure community. It really is a shady feeling.
And to all the big woman, some of us aren't attracted to you, that's just life.
Everyone is into there own thing.
Sure some of us have a more blatant way of putting...
but just remember...
Fat bottom girls,
you make the rockin world go round
Woman that dont plaster the makeup on is good in my books, have you ever seen a pornstar without makeup on?...not appetizing. In my opinion guys can be attracted to all kinds of woman not just based on looks, if your looking for the perfect 10 blonde your more or less just feeding your ego if the relationships just based on outer beauty.
first of all dog theres no hate or anger generated from this. I just swear alot which on the internet can be construed as anger or hatred. I have been smilin the whole time posting dog. The impotency thing is more than likely due to years of shooting speedballs(been clean 4 goin on 5 years) and the fact that im not physically attracted to a female that is bigger than me. As for confidence and social skills well your wrong there to, i initiated all sorts of contact with females from my region and they just aint having the Dusty Nuggets dog. I spin records so i am used to socializing, but these Wisconsin girls are so fuckin clicky that its as if they dont want to socialize outside of there circle. Respect ? I was in the Army my first approach to women is always with the utmost respect of a gentleman just like your tax money trained me to do.
DUDE! you look like a serial killer is all I can say. And your attitude sux!
Beautiful women come in all sizes and shapes actually. Learn to masterbate is all I can say for you or go back home! And you are ignorant as well posting your picture. Most women don't care for ignorant, and unenlightened men such as you.
Yo Those of you that think im just nuts and live in WI(or neighboring communities) i invite you to party wit me and my crew. Then you can see for real whats happenin, then tell me whats up. I'm always partyin in Milwaukee, But im down for whatever and can party anywhere.
LOL......i don't know if you could handle it babe. I just have to stick up for the women out there being put down by assholes of the world. It is my avocation you know...LOL.