whoa whoa whoa. Lets hit the brakes for a second here. Obviously G you have a serious pain problem and i assure you that Heroin is NOT the answer. In fact though, id say the Oxycontin addiction will probably be harder to break than the Heroin, but the H will kill yah from the inside faster. PLEASE, buddy seek a second opinion, and alternative treatments, which come at the suggestions of the docs you see. Im sure the doc isnt upping your dose because she has a moral issue with getting people severely hooked on pain meds. I applaud her for this, and im sure almost none of her decision is based her not believing how much pain you are in. But of coarse, im not in the room with you and the doc. just understand that these things are SERIOUS drugs, and the downfall to being addicted and abusing things like Heroin, are farrr worse than the actual condition the person has. I know it seems like a horrible thing to say, why not get relief at any cost? because the cost in the end is your life, and the understanding of medical treatments and how they can assist your body over a sometimes long period of time, like physical rehabilitation. In any case i know sever pain, and everyday sever pain is one of the worst things to deal with in life, and drags your entire outlook and quality of life down the drain. It sounds to me like you are scrambling, and are desperate to find relief in any way possible. the only true responsible way to do this is to see multiple doctors and take the recoomendations they give you with as much ferver as possible and attempt to allow yourself the paths to healing, at least through mental means. hopefully medications like marijuana which is harmless when compared to oxy and heroin will be able to assist more in the long run, in some way. but you have to do what your body feels is best, and abusing it with street drugs is def not the answer, you are asking for ten times the problems that you began with. Trust me i understand the need for relief. And do not write with a light heart. but it scares me to think people will turn to street grade heroin for medical relief. as much as docs are useless, they are good sometimes. you just have to find one that understands a plan and can make it work with you. Even the pharms are horrible to have to take, but in the long run, much better than a street version. In terms of cleanliness, safety, and abuse. Man i could go on and on to multiple facts and resonings, but i repeated the necessary. And the acidity in GF juice, or just the juice itself has effects only on a limited line of pills, and as far as i know and have seen on the topic, it doesnt iclude painkillers. Although caffeine will allow a train car for travel with most medicines. Its gives the meds a vehicle to travel the body more efficiently. There are a few ways to accomplish it without caffeine also. Here is just one small ie. of some info behind GF juice, theres all sorts of talk all over, but this sums it all up pretty well// How Grapefruit Juice Makes Some Pills More Powerful - New York Times ."...The handful of drugs now known to be involved include some common and potent ones, among them Plendil (felodipine) for high blood pressure and heart disease, Seldane (terfenadine) for allergies, Sandimmune (cyclosporine) to prevent rejection of transplanted organs, and Invirase (saquinavir) for treating AIDS." Alot was running through the head as i wrote this so if yah have concerns, like, you say youve tried everything, msg me and ill see what resources i can come up with you.
Here's a list of KNOWN meds, so far, that interact with gf juice... Grapefruit juice: Can it cause drug interactions? - MayoClinic.com Like I wrote I have no first hand experience with other interactions just what I have read from many sources and people's experiences. I DO agree with JDR and his assessments, ESPECIALLY about using H and the oxy dependence....I have a friend that lost EVERYTHING due to his addiction to oxy he developed from a severe beating he got as a bouncer. PLEASE seek out other opinions and help
YOINK..... Grapefruit and drug interactions The following drugs are known to have potentially serious interactions with grapefruit products, tangelos and Seville oranges. Carbamazepine (Carbatrol, Tegretol) An anti-seizure medication Buspirone (BuSpar), clomipramine (Anafranil) and sertraline (Zoloft) Antidepressants Diazepam (Valium), triazolam (Halcion) Tranquilizers Felodipine (Plendil), nifedipine (Adalat, Procardia), nimodipine (Nimotop), nisoldipine (Sular) and possibly verapamil (Isoptin, Verelan) Calcium channel blockers used to treat high blood pressure Saquinavir (Invirase) and indinavir (Crixivan) HIV medications Simvastatin (Zocor), lovastatin (Mevacor, Altoprev) and atorvastatin (Lipitor), simvastatin-ezetimibe (Vytorin) HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors used to treat high cholesterol Cyclosporine (Neoral, Sandimmune), tacrolimus (Prograf) and sirolimus (Rapamune) Immunosuppressant drugs Amiodarone (Cordarone) A drug used to treat and prevent abnormal heart rhythms (arrhythmias) Methadone Pain relief medication Sildenafil (Viagra) Erectile dysfunction medication tis interesting too cause i developed a dependance on these two Diazepam (Valium), triazolam (Halcion)as prescribed by my neurologist at the time for anxiety and migraine pain relief. THING IS, these two along with a few other she gave me at the time, yes at the same time, ARE NOT supposed to be taken together. LOL, well it took nothing short of a moron to see that it was a terrible choice of a mix of meds and i still to this day am bewildered what her motivation was. I cant imagine having worse withdrawls than the extent i had, just some shakes and sever anxiety attacks. but to be addicted to methadone, which is usually only used to get people off off opiates these days and not usually for pain relief, or some other pain killer addiction or street frug would be incredibly hellish. Hellish is the only word i can think of that gets close to what you might go through. But, luckily this list doesnt include anything that is refularly abused besides the Methadone, which is used to treat addiction more times than pain. some people feel methadone clinics, and safe injection sites are the safer way to go than just telling people they are screwed and cant use anything, thus using the cold turkey method which is about as effective as a piano drop to the head. seems like the GF juice and some of these meds might have undesired effects on the heart in particular. have to consult a doc about that though. \Keep the VIAGRA next to the VitaminWater and not the juice pitcher. lol
Opiate addictions are no joke, my mom was recently dropped from her pain clinic for failing a piss test for pot. She had been on the highest dosage of phentanyl patch you can find, oxycontin , and a few muscle relaxers. This past week she has been going cold turkey, and suffering major withdrawals. If western medicine has no answer they throw a pill at it.
hmmm... not exactly a pill hater it's just that by and large the prescription drugs I do take all seem to fall into the category of the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all. therein lies the problem. it would be nice if a legal pain reliever actually worked for my pain but they don't so I tried for myself what I increasingly was hearing about cannabis as a treatment for spsticity and it's associated muscle pain. guess what... works like a charm with only pleasurable side effects. so I can take their pills and get nothing other than constipation or I can be as pharmaceutical free as possible and take an all natural medicine and not only get fast, near total relief accompanied by a real good chance of laughing my ass off. obviously I chose the BPharmaFree route
Silly me and here I thought this site was about weed and medicinal mj. Yeah I took some valiums and tried coke a few times when I was in The Service. That was 30+years ago. I saw a couple ODs when I was a medic...not a pretty picture and a good reason to stay away from that kind of thing. I smoke/consume cannibis smoke and goodies and sometimes drink alcohol. That's pretty much it the last 35 years. Tho I will say I REALLY LIKE Nitros Oxide at the dentists office. I think it might be cool to have a small tank to take hits off when smoking a doober. At the dentist Nitros makes the appointment fly by and I'm always pretty goofy as I'm coming out of it. I don't like the idea of taking pills unless I am really in pain for an injury. Though I am FOR legalizing cannibis I think heroin, meth and crack are a threat and a scourge to the planet.
I've never been a fan of any pills. Even Tylenol, Asprin, anything, I hardly use it. I hardly use cold meds depending how bad I'm sick and I'll only take Asprin if I have a bad enough headache. When I got my wisdom teeth pulled, I didn't take any of the pain meds they gave me, half tempted to sell them but my mom got a hold of them and made sure they were safe. I've also have had depression since my dad passed but I don't want my mom to find out just for her to take me to a shrink and for them to prescribe me happy pills. Fuck that, the only drugs I will touch is weed and alcohol.
In these parts, the place has gone crazy for valium - D10's, Roche 10 but them three have the same meaning but around here they call em blues. Bein sold for 1 euro a pop can get them in 1000,s as a result there has bein near death overdoses, people stabbing like 5 people in the one night an people trying to kill demselves all because they are mixing them with highly alcoholic drinks and taking dem like smarties, not so much any more but their still floatin around ! I was also in a car crash and my freind that was drivin took a corner too sharp and the car flipped 3 times in the air , into a six foot ditch and got herself out, leaving me in the passenger up front and two in the back ! I panicked and found the door handle and forced it upwards an looked out and seen smoke so i had to remove my two mates from the back of the 3 door car not nowing one had fraxtured her back in three places and the other a collar bone ! And a blood test results show diazapan which the blues came up as in her system ! Think the driver would of told us huh
I absolutely steer away from pills as much as possible, I've tried them, and I just don't really want to be completely out of my mind fucked up stumbling and nodding out. Just my .02$
The way I see it pills are great, but they can ruin your life just the same. I always thought Vicodin was the best shit on earth, I was taking it every day. My life really changed though when I found Percacets. When you are a freshmen in highschool and you've sold almost all of your possessions just to be able to make it through the week you know somethings wrong. I stole money from my little sister and pills from my dad. And this was all before i even considered myself addicted mind you. But still I cant say they're all bad. Its just the person thats taking them. I guess what im trying to say is that painkillers are like your fireplace. It heats your home till its cozier than a bear den, but if you dont keep a carefull eye on it your house could burn to the ground. Take it from someone who knows. Edit: Luckily for me I had a smoke detector in my "home" (close friends), and the best firefighter available (Good ol' Mary Jane).
I dont see nothing wrong with takin a Xanax every now and again. I take em when my anxiety is really high or I really just want to sleep with no disturbance..They chill me out alot. But some people over do it. One is plenty. Maybe 2. But more than that plus on top of that..doing it everyday..is retarded. Smoke one.
E is amazing. I love going to a rave or a concert and taking like a 5 stack of the orange supermans that flood my area all the time. those pills are really bomb and i perfer to take a stack of them than 2 molly's.
I don't hate pills and have no personal horror stories of their side effects... post-stroke... prescription pain killers simply do not work. nada,zip,nothing, with the exception of constipation. that is why I try to be pharmaceutical free. that and that big pharma are reportedly major $$ contributors to maintaining prohibition
When I read the title, I thought you guys where gonna be talking about ecstasy or MDMA, and all the different kinds you have been having!! hahaha when people mention pills here in NZ they would usually asume there talking about 60% low grad form of crack mixed with fly spray and toilet cleaner and 0.05% MDMA, hahahaha theres better but there kinda rear D: as for synthetic opiates, Ive try'd something that was being given to someone with kidney stones for pain. in all honesty, weed is better then any pill I've ever had... Then again Im still waiting on getting a proper E, Ive herd some good things about descent E's
I love all pills from Adderall to Xanax! Amazes me how something so small can through off my entire system. haha In all honesty Ive had my fun with pills and am sort of taking a break from them. Its real easy to let the addiction get out of hand with out even realizing it until one day you "wake up".
