yea nalu,we measure from the back.But man I just underestimated hahah. Our waves aren't reef breaks so they're a little more shallow,mellower waves..in most cases onshore wind is a must.I like the breaks here though..I could only imagine surfing huntington there hazz(need to check the cam in the day time), or any of the islands ..one day I tell you what..Im so there.
Take it easy everybody,stay up