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04-26-2008, 10:20 AM
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And for the record Torog, no, I would not call an apple a drug because it contains vitamin c, because vitamin c isn't a drug, its a vitamin! Vitamins are things that our bodies need to function normally, whereas drugs are something we purposefully ingest to change the state of our bodies or, in certain cases like this one, our minds.
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04-26-2008, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SylentJohn  Im not gonna call it a drug because some government proclaimed it a drug. I agree with Torog, it grows wild, you dont gotta add anything to it, its as natural as snow. Sounds like you guys believe your governments a little too much. Sure its a drug by their definition. What is a drug? A word, that is all. I tend to believe its a plant. Same with coffee. Who proclaimed caffeine a "drug"? Some goverment funded scientist, that's who.
Now cooking some cocaine in a baby food jar with some baking soda to make crack, thats a dangerous substance, lets call that a drug.
Saddens me to see two potheads actually admit that marijuana is a drug, truly it does, no wonder we cant win this war against this beautiful plant and all this silliness of people being persecuted for taking a natural growing medicine. Whats the sense if the potheads are on the bad guy's side?  | Howdy SylentJohn,
You nailed it ! 
It's kinda like the anti-gunners saying that there must be laws against assault weapons,they re-defined what an assault weapon is,by proclaiming that if it looks like an assault weapon-then it must be one,when in fact-a true assault weapon is capable of full-auto fire,which would require a federal firearms license to buy,as the general public cannot purchase full-auto weapons.
Another example,is when folks call a truck,a car..  Probably not a very good example,but it is one of my peeves..lol.
Well heck,I never went to any DARE classes,maybe that's why they're so willing to let the goverment define for them,what is and what ain't ?
Have a good one ! 
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04-26-2008, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Torog Howdy SylentJohn,
You nailed it !
It's kinda like the anti-gunners saying that there must be laws against assault weapons,they re-defined what an assault weapon is,by proclaiming that if it looks like an assault weapon-then it must be one,when in fact-a true assault weapon is capable of full-auto fire,which would require a federal firearms license to buy,as the general public cannot purchase full-auto weapons.
Another example,is when folks call a truck,a car.. Probably not a very good example,but it is one of my peeves..lol.
Well heck,I never went to any DARE classes,maybe that's why they're so willing to let the goverment define for them,what is and what ain't ?
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LMAO  Man are you scrambling to try and justify what in my opinion is a absolutely ridiculous position. Anyone that maintains mj is not a drug is in denial. Does it make you feel better about yourself by pretending it is just this simple plant that god put here for us to enjoy. Or does your and other's that think like you do, real self-satisfaction come from the labeling of those that freely admit the family mj belongs in as joining the enemy. That is just plain laughable. 
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04-26-2008, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TeeBox LMAO Man are you scrambling to try and justify what in my opinion is a absolutely ridiculous position. Anyone that maintains mj is not a drug is in denial. Does it make you feel better about yourself by pretending it is just this simple plant that god put here for us to enjoy. Or does your and other's that think like you do, real self-satisfaction come from the labeling of those that freely admit the family mj belongs in as joining the enemy. That is just plain laughable. | Howdy TeeBox,
Well I guess I'm just a simple country bumpkin that don't know any better..I should just git with the program.
BTW,if you were growing some marijuana,would it be more correct if you said "I'm growing drugs" ? "Here's a pic of the drugs I'm growing.." "My drug leaves seems to have some yellowing,maybe I'm burning my drugs ?"
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04-26-2008, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Torog Howdy TeeBox,
Well I guess I'm just a simple country bumpkin that don't know any better..I should just git with the program. | These are your words, not mine. But now that you bring it up.....  Quote: |
BTW,if you were growing some marijuana,would it be more correct if you said "I'm growing drugs" ?
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"Here's a pic of the drugs I'm growing.." "My drug leaves seems to have some yellowing,maybe I'm burning my drugs ?" | I really can't tell as I couldn't find the picture. I'm sure there are accomplished growers who could tell better then I. Quote: |
Have a good one ! | You do the same.
Here have some drugs, err I mean plant! 
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04-26-2008, 05:46 PM
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We have to alter the plant to alter our state of mind and be stoned... so to speak. Can't even use male plants... therefore we are looking for specific plants, with specific buds... that when we light on fire, it will make us stoned (or bake it or whatever you do). We are altering the plant for our own benefit.
I am not viewing the word 'drug' as anything bad in this case, and definitely not getting my opinion from the government or whatever. This just seems like common sense to me.
However.. we are all entitled to our own opinion.
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04-27-2008, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Torog Howdy TeeBox,
Well I guess I'm just a simple country bumpkin that don't know any better..I should just git with the program.
BTW,if you were growing some marijuana,would it be more correct if you said "I'm growing drugs" ? "Here's a pic of the drugs I'm growing.." "My drug leaves seems to have some yellowing,maybe I'm burning my drugs ?"
Have a good one ! | If you want to label yourself that way, be my guest. It is in no way unusual for plants to contain drugs. Opium, mushrooms, cocaine, DMT, all sorts of DRUGS exist in nature. What we define as a drug can include lots of things that do or do not exist naturally. You are correct, marijuana itself is not a drug, it is a plant, but that plant contains THC, which is a drug that we humans use to achieve an intoxicated effect. It would be silly to talk about the plant matter itself and the leaves as a drug, but one of the things any grower will look at is the trichomes on the buds, because thats an indicator of how much of the DRUG THC the plant contains.
Don't act like we're being controlled by the government just because we call it is.
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04-27-2008, 01:51 PM
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Howdy TeeBox,halffoot and all,
Well ..it's like this..if-God forbid-I'm ever pulled over by a cop and he asks if I have any drugs on me or in the car,and all I have is marijuana on me..I'll tell him "Nope.."..and if he found it and asked me why I lied to him,I'll say "Marijuana is a plant-not a drug and I believe that God created marijuana for our own use,as we see fit,because it is a seed-bearing plant,and God said so,in the Book of Genesis." 
Have a good one ... 
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04-27-2008, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Torog Howdy TeeBox,halffoot and all,
Well ..it's like this..if-God forbid-I'm ever pulled over by a cop and he asks if I have any drugs on me or in the car,and all I have is marijuana on me..I'll tell him "Nope.."..and if he found it and asked me why I lied to him,I'll say "Marijuana is a plant-not a drug and I believe that God created marijuana for our own use,as we see fit,because it is a seed-bearing plant,and God said so,in the Book of Genesis."
Have a good one ... | Good one! That will work for sure. Let us know how much your bail is and we can take up a collection!
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04-27-2008, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TeeBox Good one! That will work for sure. Let us know how much your bail is and we can take up a collection! | Howdy TeeBox,
That's a mighty kind offer-thanx !
I did express my feelings about marijuana to my public defender last year and wanted to tell the judge the same,but he said it would be almost impossible to git a fair jury on the subject,given the fact that the jury pool was mostly all too far to the right to have any sympathy for my beliefs and my medical use of marijuana..I wanted to go all the way to the Supreme Court.
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04-27-2008, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Torog Howdy TeeBox,halffoot and all,
Well ..it's like this..if-God forbid-I'm ever pulled over by a cop and he asks if I have any drugs on me or in the car,and all I have is marijuana on me..I'll tell him "Nope.."..and if he found it and asked me why I lied to him,I'll say "Marijuana is a plant-not a drug and I believe that God created marijuana for our own use,as we see fit,because it is a seed-bearing plant,and God said so,in the Book of Genesis."
Have a good one ... | God also says it's bad now
another point about cannabis being a drug... is the fact that it doesn't just... grow, if you see what i mean, it won't grow naturally without YOUR help (lighting, nutrients etc.) except in certain places where the soil and climate is good enough
i suppose i could say to the cops "this cocaine plant isn't a drug officer, it's a plant made by god"
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04-27-2008, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Wesley_Pipes God also says it's bad now
another point about cannabis being a drug... is the fact that it doesn't just... grow, if you see what i mean, it won't grow naturally without YOUR help (lighting, nutrients etc.) except in certain places where the soil and climate is good enough
i suppose i could say to the cops "this cocaine plant isn't a drug officer, it's a plant made by god" | well i agree with ya mostly but weed grows naturally all over the planet just about every state in the united states has wild marijuana growing in it. | |
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