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Old 02-18-2008, 11:55 AM   #1
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Noah’s Ark nestled on Mount Ararat

The Peninsula ^| January 19, 2008 | Satish Kanady



Dogubayazit (Turkey’s Iran-Armenian Border) •

For the first time in the seven decade-long history of the search for the legendary Noah’s Ark, a Turkish-Hong Kong exploration team on Tuesday came out with “material evidence”, to prove that the Ark was nestled on Mount Ararat, Turkey’s highest mountain peak bordering Iran and Armenia.

A panel of experts, comprising Turkish authorities, veteran mountaineers, archaeologists, geologists and members of Hong Kong-based Noah’s Ark Ministries International, also displayed an almost one-metre-long peice of petrified wood before the media and specially invited international experts.

The experts claimed it to be a part of a long structure they had unearthed during their February-August 2007 exploration. “It is for the first time in the history of the Ark search that an exploration team is getting a material evidence and graphic documentation. This makes it not only a the significant breakthrough in the Ark-search, but one that is supported with the most substantial evidence in recent history,” the panel said.

The revelation is expected to open up a fresh chapter in the ongoing debates in the scientific community on the search for Noah’s Ark.

Narrating the genesis of their exploration on Mount Ararat, the mount which has a direct reference in Holy Quran (Mount Judi) and Bible, the panel said the search team had made several foiled attempts before unearthing the evidence at an altitude of 4,500-metres of the estimated 5,165 metre volcanic mountain.

“The structure was discovered in the interiors of an unusual cave. The 11.5m wide and 2.6m high white wooden texture was revealed after removing thick layers of volcanic ash on the cave wall,” panel members said at a press conference.

One of the underlying issues in the search for the Ark is the proper identification of its wood fragments. A petrographic examination carried out by the Applied Geoscience Centre of the Department of Earth Sciences, University of Hong Kong, identified the object as a petrified wooden structure, the panel said.

“Some of the big holes found on the structure indicate the locations where branches used to grow on tree. In places, original holes are partly or completely replaced by individual minerals and crystalline materials that can be found in rock materials,” said Dr Ahmet Ozbek, a panel member, who is also a faculty of Geology Engineering Kahramanmara Suctcu Imam University.
Dismissing the possibilities of the structure being wood that could appear naturally around the discovery site, Professor Oktay Belli, director, Eurasian Archaeology Institute, University of Istanbul, said researches have proved that there was no vegetation on Mount Ararat ever since 2000BC, because of the asperities of Ararat’s climate.

Talking to The Peninsula, Cemalettin Demircioglu, Dogubayazit City Governor, under whose jurisdiction the mount is located, said the civic body will invite more international experts to conduct further scientific studies on Mount Ararat.

“History has more than one times corroborated the legendary evidence that the ark was nestled on Mount Ararat. We will introduce the latest findings to the world and continue the scientific study. All interested scientists and NGOs can join our missions” he said. However, he said, those who are involved in the project must ensure the findings are not used politically, religiously, or for any vested interest.
Located in the Far Eastern Turkey, Ararat is great prize for mountain collectors. Ark sighting has often been reported from this mountain. The observation of Vessel-shaped features in aerial photograph of Ararat had caused a stir in the late 1950’s. However, this is the first time an exploration team is coming out with “material evidence”.
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Re: Noah's Ark Nestled on Mount Ararat

wow they finally found it. i saw a show on the history channel about this and they searched that mountain for a long long time and never found anything more than some old pieces of wood that somebody had left there. thats really cool
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I've heard of the Ararat structure and this line of research before, but it'll be interesting to see what they can learn from the samples they've acquired.

One thing that didn't seem to make much sense to me though...
"Dismissing the possibilities of the structure being wood that could appear naturally around the discovery site, Professor Oktay Belli, director, Eurasian Archaeology Institute, University of Istanbul, said researches have proved that there was no vegetation on Mount Ararat ever since 2000BC, because of the asperities of Ararat’s climate."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what we're really talking when we talk about petrified wood is a fossil record and as such could or would be easily older than that time period wouldn't it?
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I've heard of the Ararat structure and this line of research before, but it'll be interesting to see what they can learn from the samples they've acquired.

One thing that didn't seem to make much sense to me though...
"Dismissing the possibilities of the structure being wood that could appear naturally around the discovery site, Professor Oktay Belli, director, Eurasian Archaeology Institute, University of Istanbul, said researches have proved that there was no vegetation on Mount Ararat ever since 2000BC, because of the asperities of Ararat’s climate."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what we're really talking when we talk about petrified wood is a fossil record and as such could or would be easily older than that time period wouldn't it?
Howdy halffoot,

I hear ya about the petrified wood,but I was thinking that I had heard somewhere,that it doesn't take wood as long to petrify as you would imagine and there are factors that can be present,that accelerate the process.

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Howdy halffoot,

I hear ya about the petrified wood,but I was thinking that I had heard somewhere,that it doesn't take wood as long to petrify as you would imagine and there are factors that can be present,that accelerate the process.

Have a good one ...
Yes, I've heard that as well, but that only proves(if true of course) that its possible that the wood was from after 2000 BC from a human source, not that it wasn't from before then from a natural one, which seems to be the claim being made.
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I don't have a problem with wood being on any mountain, or wood being any shape on any mountain or petrifying within a year, but.......

What I have a problem with, being a man used to having many different animals around him at all times.
Is the management of the volume of animals.

Just think of the animals that you can name yourself, and then imagine that there are easily a 100 times more than that, of just different species, and you will get some idea of the volumes we are talking about.

I know what it takes to get ,say, a horse and a dog together, or a chicken and a owl, a lizard and a snake, it is patience loaded and frustration filled.

Good grief, I can not even imagine the amount of refuse you would have to deal with.

So Turog,
Still scaring folks with your wild jingoistic banter, your insane hell and damnation?
Well good I have enjoyed some of our conversations since you calmed down.

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I don't have a problem with wood being on any mountain, or wood being any shape on any mountain or petrifying within a year, but.......

What I have a problem with, being a man used to having many different animals around him at all times.
Is the management of the volume of animals.

Just think of the animals that you can name yourself, and then imagine that there are easily a 100 times more than that, of just different species, and you will get some idea of the volumes we are talking about.

I know what it takes to get ,say, a horse and a dog together, or a chicken and a owl, a lizard and a snake, it is patience loaded and frustration filled.

Good grief, I can not even imagine the amount of refuse you would have to deal with.

So Turog,
Still scaring folks with your wild jingoistic banter, your insane hell and damnation?
Well good I have enjoyed some of our conversations since you calmed down.

Nice to see you.
Howdy hempity,

It's nice to see ya here !

I hear ya on the amount of 'refuse' that one would have to manage in the Ark situation..much less gittin the animals to be with each other-but then-with God..all things are possible !

As for me preachin hellfire and damnation,I still do that to some degree-can't help myself..lol. Also,there's a youngun here,halffoot,that's helping me to learn how to debate without just giving up and resorting to the 'liberal' label ...lol.

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What I have a problem with, being a man used to having many different animals around him at all times.
Is the management of the volume of animals.
You forgot to consider God's Will; In which all would be persuaded to follow, Noah; As a messenger of God, Doing the biddings he was called by God to do. Peace

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I do not doubt that there is a boat on that mountain. A large scale flood in Mesopotamia is nearly historical fact now(I have heard a number of theories on how it occurred, it had nothing to do with god and sin unless you choose to believe in that sort of thing) and in fact was documented well before biblical days and the noah legend in the Epic of Gilgamesh.

I highly doubt the whole "every animal on earth thing". More likely some farmer loaded his goats and pigs and the story was exaggerated when it gained its spiritual overtones.

Also, the size of the boat is definitely exaggerated. A wooden boat that size never has and never will be built. From an engineering standpoint its physically impossible. And dont give me that with god everything is possible whooey, god did not come out of heaven and change the laws of physics any more than he came down to change the laws of the jungle. Thats all part of the mythos.

And thanks for the compliment Torog, I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks(even if the old dog is always complaining about being taught by a younger dog he often disdains as a puppy ).
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