| Re: What's the lineage of NL#5??
FOE20 cracks the Code for Northern Lights(csc) Thats right my bruthas..After 4+ years Ive finally brought myself to the conclusions your about to read...I left the commentary in there to give you the whole picture as I'll stand by this and cant wait for dispute from Nevil, Shanti, Sam, MrSoul to name just a few...So kick back and enjoy the ride as it was a great one but unless I missed something this code is a s good as Broke...
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not a prob Deeker..Im learning just as much as any really...and thats the best part is learning..and actually it looks like the #2 as the #1 was said to be a Single Cola Plant..#2 was said to be Pine Tree Shaped which is what you show..
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Northern Lights 1 was a single stalked, compact plant with a moderate Afghani smell. No one offers this classic version at this time. A strong plant and buzz.
Northern Lights 2 was a sturdy, pine tree shaped with a musty and piney odor. Dutch Passion (Oasis) and THSeeds (Closet Queen) currently offer versions.
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and on that note....Its time for me to say a few things Ive held back on and this forum is prob the Best out there so heres the place I wana lay it down...
From Sensi Seeds Hash Plant descript..
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This precious Afghani is descended from one of the finest hash-making cultivars ever brought from the Hindu Kush to the west. Cannabis strains known generally as hash plants are found throughout the countries that border these mountains, but very few have the pedigree of this Hash Plant - a living definition of the stocky, chunky, beautifully sticky Afghanica genotype. The direct ancestor of Hash Plant was developed in the Northwest USA and came to Holland as a few carefully-transported female cuttings.
this is for all but mainly brutha Loran...who opened my eyes..
Well folks I had a epiphany last night...after lookin at this fukin strain for all this time it came to me..and the few quotes is in a way opening a huge door in my thought process..Notice these lines...
"brought from the Hindu Kush to the west["...were talkin the Mazar range I'll bet my happy ass on it now..but you see that special word??..""Pedigree""
If it was a Ped it was Inbred or Out crossed prior..
now lets move forward..
""pedigree of this Hash Plant"" ..HashPlants..hmm Afhgani Black ..hmmm....""stocky, chunky, beautifully sticky Afghanica "Genotype".""...Genotype not Phenotype..
""The direct ancestor of Hash Plant was developed in the Northwest USA and came to Holland as a few carefully-transported Female cuttings""
This to me was the Trade mark HashPlant not NL..and in turn Im saying that the Original HashPlant is a descendant of the Orig NL lines...Thats right..Read it and weep..not only that..I also feel at this point our most Prized and Treasured Lines came from this with wonders such as these
Afghani #1 (pure IBL)
Hindu Kush - the Original "Mazar I sharif"
HashPlant - was the First ever Hybrid created from the Afgan x HKush(aka Outcross of Afghan to initialize IBL and also created this base Perfect hi-breed..
but all from a handful of Original Land Race from the Afghan /Hindu Region....So Im sayin that all these were the Orig Parent Lines..
Landrace Hindu / Afghani (Both Lowland and Highland..Highland was Reefermans trip to the Kush range..so take all that in and now lets look at the whole picture..
What is a IBL?...what was Used in the NL lines?...."Aghan" was Pure and Needed to be Inbred to Create Afghani #1 IBL pure...but it still needed the Putcross..This is where the Hindu came in..I feel the Hindu was the Male in the F.1' gen of the orig NL line..This created HPlant....From there these Incredible Mothers were divided up at some point but we still would have from this work....
Afghan pure somewhere and a IBL < this was the Power
HinduKush pure from Seed < this was the Flavor
HashPlant (trademarked) orig Hybrid of these 2 parents
So in all actuality Im suggesting that a simple Hybrid was made..From the F.1's it created we have a list of others as the Cuts or Moms were then moved and out crossed even more..But also Inbred to the Afghan again to Create...
the IBL Afghani #1..
next came...
Hash Plant (trademark)
and the rest..Im still workin out...but Thai hasn't fit yet and I'll still bet it was never part of the Original Parent Line..It may have been inbred later and yes I could easily see a Afghan x Thai at some point..But actually I feel the hybrid for that is (Afghan/HKush)Afghan F1. or the HashPlant x Thai..
Thats bout it for me on this so far and where I rest my case atm..I hope it opens the thought of others as it keeps me awake on many occasions..heheh..Stay Sane but Grow Mad!..
FOE20
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yo masta Loran...man I'll tell what else showed me the light after you had listed your thoughts on the NL line..Instead of going to NL to define this lets look at the parents one more time thru the eyes of the Seed Co's..and what I found was damn near exactly what I felt..
in most Guides Afghan is listed as..and the way form/color is described is right on point..
Afghani #1 - "Big , Dark Indica Leaves..sturdy Stem, High Yield...
Won 94 Harvest Cup..
Theres no Parent to Afghan #1 or what Im saying is the IBL that most of us know..
Now heres where I found something....
Sensi's Hindu Kush - Pure Kush originally from Afghan/Pakistan "mountain" region..
This leads me to believe that both the orig Afghan Pakistan valley one (what I call a lowland dry chalky Afghan) was bred to seed of its cousin HinduKush as said "found in the Mountains thus Highland variety..I'll even guess
Afghan x Hindu Kush - this crated the base HashPlant line and others including NL..
Now what did the Seed Co say about HashPlant?...and here it comes spelled out for all of us..
Sensi's HashPlant - "Indica" cross of 25% NL#1 x 75% ...yup you know it..Hash Plant!!!!!!................Meaning the Hash Plant Was established only After the original Hybrid was created..whats NL#1 again?..Afghani IBL baby..
At this point I'll almost bet..
The Afghan was Inbred using the F.1 seed from Afghan x Hindu Kush..
Then to create HPlant it was Bx to the HPlant dom side when the Male was selected..The Afghan was continually bred into to stabilize the Afghan side...
Now I can see how they might of later used a Thai to make the gene pool more diverse when they were isolating the Afghan or Hash Plant phenos..Thai came in later or some think Haze and I'll agree Thai but when and how is a bitch..Other than that its all just 2 orig Landrace varieties bred and then phenos chosen and isolated..then inbred, outcrosses and hybridized...now thats that and almost every aspect I got...amen..
you know the Thai end ..that could be the NL#9 tho..
you'll also notice HPlant Hybrids from Sensi that have it as the Father...ala G13 x HPlant..(yea from??....Nevil/Shanti MNS G13 x HPlant..)...also the classic Re-worked BigBud or Critical Mass (....MNS descript of CMass - heavy Afghani x Skunk#1)..
Anyway you can basically back track the breeding from these 2 orig Land race breeds..
I also think the no# 135-A has meaning..as in the NL#5 could have been a isolated selection of the first round of hybrid work thus making it #135 in Series A..The Original Hybrid..
What also makes me very happy is back in the early 90's I received 5 cuts of a Mazar-i-Sharif Hindu Kush for a whopping $5 each...I do feel in my heart the cuts I had were from this orig Landrace Hindu kush and were as said and are...the Strongest Genetics ever used in the world of Cannabis at the time..
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