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Old 11-21-2008, 05:25 AM   #1
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Unhappy Question about the chemical drugs....

Why do you feel it necessary to damage your body so? Like, I understand it's your life and you can do whatever you want with it but seriously... That shit is dangerous and they can really mess up your life.

Maybe it's just because I've seen a few people OD on the chemical drugs, but I never plan to use them or even think about it!

I must admit, I've eaten Magic Mushrooms a handful of times, but that was in my younger years, when I did many stupid things like drinking way too much and began smoking. (And I also must admit that I enjoyed the trip I had gotten from said mushrooms but I would never do them to excess.) There was always at least six months between each "dose".
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Re: Question about the chemical drugs....

"The chemical drugs"?


The fuck does that mean?
 
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Re: Question about the chemical drugs....

All drugs are chemicals. Dont delude yourself.
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Re: Question about the chemical drugs....

Why did you experiment with shrooms? I guess we are all just young and stupid?

Seriously though, I do experiment with other drugs, and I think I am perfectly fine. There is a huge difference between using and abusing. I don't mess with meth, heroin, pcp, crack or any of that stuff. As long as the use does not become habitual, I see no harm in eating some shrooms or enjoying the occasional roll. The other stuff someone else might be able to answer.
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Re: Question about the chemical drugs....

Give me some crank or I'll tear you in half and shove you up your own ass! Sorry. . . I get edgy when I haven't had my coffee. Like halffoot said though, it's all chemicals, my lady likes to have a little toot every once in a great while, never done her any harm. I'm a freaking alcoholic and as far as I'm concerned that's as bad or worse than many things that are illegal. I've known many people that lived very productive healthy lives, all the while using tweek, coke and possibly even some smack. . . Now with my personality, I sure as hell couldn't do that without negative effects, that's just my personality though. Know yourself.
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Re: Question about the chemical drugs....

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All drugs are chemicals. Dont delude yourself.
I didn't say that they weren't.... I was actually referring to the drugs that are nothing but chemicals.. ie, "chemical drugs".
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Re: Question about the chemical drugs....

methamphetamine is made with dangerous substances. Every ingredient.

Shrooms are SAFER than pot if you go by damage to the body.

But i get what you mean and i feel yah.
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Re: Question about the chemical drugs....

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methamphetamine is made with dangerous substances. Every ingredient.

Shrooms are SAFER than pot if you go by damage to the body.

But i get what you mean and i feel yah.
Thanks, JDR.

I was told, though, that shrooms make the upper part of your spinal cord bleed into your brain and that is what causes the tripping. Is that true, or do you know? Because that's why I always waited so long after to do them again....
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Re: Question about the chemical drugs....

The chemicals in "shrooms" that produce the high are called psilocybin and psilocin (and some trace similar compounds). When you eat mushrooms, psilocybin is converted into a chemical called psilocin. Psilocin is then absorbed into the blood stream where it is taken to the brain.

Psilocin has a chemical structure very similar to the naturally occurring neurotransmitter serotonin. Neurotransmitters are chemicals that cells in the brain (neurons) use to communicate with each other. Varying levels of serotonin will affect sleep, appetite, sensory perception, temperature regulation, pain suppression and mood.

Serotonin is taken up or absorbed by neurons at receptor sites known as the 5-HT receptors. There are various types of 5-HT receptors, but for our purpose we'll generalize. Because psilocin's chemical structure is very similar to serotonin, it is taken up by the 5-HT2 receptor site (one of several 5-HT receptor types) as are many other common hallucinogens including LSD and mescaline.

After the psilocin molecules bind with the 5-HT2 receptor sites, little is known about what happens. Psilo(cybin)cin is considered a serotonin agonist and possibly may have reuptake inhibitory effects also(SSRI) .There is still not enough data to explain clinically exactly the effect of the active ingredients in psychedelic fungi. What we do know is that psilocin is NOT physically harmful to the body or brain. Psychological conditions can rarely arise from a very profound experience, but no physical harm is done by psilocin even in higher dosages.

In short: psilocin molecules from the mushrooms bind with serotonin receptor sites in the brain and cause the mind to do strange things and scientists aren't quite sure why.

Taken from Shroomery - Magic Mushrooms (Shrooms) Demystified
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I didn't say that they weren't.... I was actually referring to the drugs that are nothing but chemicals.. ie, "chemical drugs".
I would have thought that, but then you mentioned shrooms. I think what you're trying to refer to are synthetic drugs(ie, meth, cocaine, heroin, etc) and even then, i have known people who use them responsibly.

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Re: Question about the chemical drugs....

Been there, done that...I was a full blown cocaine addict for about a year.
Worst thing EVER. 2 years clean and NEVER going to touch that shit again.
I refused to go to rehab and just straight up quit. My life is amazing now, MaryJane definitely helped me quit for sure, I owe her my life!

And as far as tripping and safety go, I'm pretty sure LSD is 100% non-toxic to the human body so I always go with that. Shrooms give me a dirty buzz, I don't like 'em.
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When I was your age...blah, blah, blah....lol I did alot of drugs, but booze was my favorite. I've been sober almost 15 years, I am so thankful for that! Life is the very best! BUT... part of the reason that I started smoking, again, was that I was so scared of getting hooked on perscription pain pills. I flat out told my Doc that Medical MJ was for me, not pain pills. Besides all the drinking and drugs I did when I was younger, my liver ain't what it used to be!! I do like Shrooms tho, and if I could get my hands on some..... I do know more adults that lead normal lives, work, school, church etc, and do smoke herb. I also know some that are lost in the cracks because of booze, meth and crack/cocaine. I know I'm not strong enough to try to drink again, but there are some that think that they can 'beat it' and try it again....usually doesn't work.
I so enjoy my medical herb.....
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Re: Question about the chemical drugs....

chemical drugs is a pretty wide variety of drugs...or basically all. thc is a chemical. so are cannibinoids.

I guess i defend them because i myself enjoy partaking in them. Certain ones like amphetamines are opiates can be destructive, and i know this from experience and purposely try to avoid them. but opium is just as natural as herb, but trust me its addictive and dangerous as shit (i just finished a week long binj and although its not like a serious addiction, you get pissy).

Acid though is my favorite example, and ecstasy to a smaller degree. I did acid and it change my life, much more than shrooms. i've done it 7 times, and its been almost a year since the last time. if i never do it again that's fine because i know what i got was permanent, unlike shrooms. other people may have different experiences, but these are mine.

Mdma, while i'm sure can be devasting if taken too often/too much is wonderful occasionally. One time i tried a half a gram of pure molly at this nice little music festival, and since then my shyness disappeared. I could see it causing addiction, but i also know it has its pluses.

so before you go off saying this remember: chemicals are chemicals, no matter where they come from. for some people shrooms and weed are the way to enlightment, other lsd and mdma.

and for those who are really intelligent NONE OF THESE are enlightenment! weeds great, but i envy people who are just high on life. its easier after acid, but i still dont know what i would do if i knew i could never spark a bowl again...
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sorry if that came off as a rant ^...i tend to do that lol
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