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Osprey · 06-18-2009, 10:13 PM

Right on dude. If only rolling were possible for me at this hour. I would dig it, then no work would get done . . .

JohnDoeRadio · 06-19-2009, 03:57 AM

osprey has been kidding most of this whole time.

youre taking it too serious whab. this study is a joke, and there is more of this chemilcal they found in the air we breathe, and the rice, and wheat and etc etc etc, that we eat than in smoked pot.... in many peoples words, "everything causes cancer". in fact some normal food is more poinsonous than pot has ever been proven to be. eat raw potatoes (maybe like ten, if yah can, lol) till you pass out and youll die from being posioned. silly huh? and there are so many other chemicals to list in everyday products that cause problems in one person or another that the act of lpasting them here would seem almost ridiculous because we all know it, and we all live with it. im all for the proper, and the key word is proper study of marijuana and its effects. in fact it has been studied more than a lot of other drugs and substances despite what the people telling you otherwise would like you to think. the study done lists "perceived and possible increased risk to smoking cannabis" literally with their own words in quotations. if thats not a sign of having multiple agendas with a study result i dont know what is. the fact this was even picked up goes to show how some people still buy into the madness.

if one day, we find a missing link between what causes a certain illness or condition and it is linked to marijuana. we will know it. but something tells me we would already know...

you missed the cnn bullets, and headline news network, and all the other "interpretations of the study" that were broadcast by diff news networks, from a basic news release probably coming from AP, or Reuters news wire. fox was just one to cover it, they didnt even cover it more than others, just so happens they are a so called "conservative" network that they got the attention. in fact 99 percent of most "regular news" stories that are straight reads with talking heads are right off news wires, edited for time and content, and then re posted on a teleprompter for the people to read. which is how it should be, but the almighty dollar rules, and just like JDR show we figure out ways to talk and talk and talk about a topic and analyze every aspect of everything. when the anchors start to veer from the basics, which are WHO WHAT WHERE WHEN WHY HOW, and sometimes How long, then they are purley specualting and it becomes interpretaion and their "news talk" subject.

NORML and the Audio Stash perpetuated this Fox News thing worse than anyone. Fox wasnt the only one to run with it, and overseas it looks like the coverage was worse, or better, or worse, wait.... lol. although the audio stash news did point out some good things with this study also. but any educted person can see in the study that there is no real threat to our helath and all it does is just prove one of the most widely found not so good for you pieces to our puzzle, exists when you smoke pot. literally have to smoke it. i think we all expected and knew that by now. when marijuana literally coulda killed a dinosaur, then i will be suprised at teh news then. only then. otherwise where are teh patterns for bad effects of marijuana.... none. besides smoking.

heres the stash link cause im fair n balanced, n stuff... Reefer Madness: Cannabis damages your DNA | NORML's Daily Audio Stash

wheww. ok im done. not sure if ill make it back into this one. this debate isnt worth it. there is nothing in here we didnt know. and its fear mongering and perpetuating the same busted and cloned statement the gov has been trying to make for years. we dont want you smoking pot, so we will do anything to make sure you dont. k done, really. hitting submit ...... now.

JohnDoeRadio · 06-19-2009, 07:45 AM

the only reason i post this is to show that fox is not the only one tossing low blows...

this was the first "investigative piece" ive seen in a long time that 1. Held no investigative weight or facts, or any numbers, and 2. Is complete opinion. Completely.

from a mainstream news network. named CNN.

at times like these you just have to shove this person under the rug and laugh at them. cause the other option, biatch slappin the shiat outta em is out of the question and last time i checked still illegal.

Investigative Journalism at its best.............

Feel free to browse the comment section. Just as youd expect. People who think he is crazy, and people who latch onto his every last stinkin' word.

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An unsuspecting house, from the outside, but inside it's home to 42 marijuana plants.

Drew Griffin
CNN Special Investigations Unit
If you just drove by this house, you would never know what’s inside that walled off garage. But under a stifling Florida sun, the garage is a cool 70 degrees, a constant flow of cool, nutrient-rich water flowing throughout the floor, and illuminated by golden glowing lamps whose radiance bounces off reflective aluminum walls. It is all designed to provide maximum growing potential for the 42 mature marijuana plants evenly spaced in this factory of pot.
After seeing this, my initial reaction is that the fight to eradicate marijuana in this country is hopeless. But does that mean we should give up and legalize pot?
For two weeks, knowing I was assigned to this story, I have been asking that question to the many prosecutors, DEA agents and police I’ve encountered. The overwhelming answer is no. There is no doubt, in the minds of these people who come in contact with users, growers, smugglers and junkies, that marijuana use is terrible for the individuals who engage in it. It is not just a pathway to stronger drugs; it is, in and of itself, a recipe for losers. People who call themselves ‘casual users,’ in the minds of law enforcement, are deluding themselves into believing they are not affected by this drug. They compare it to the drunk who believes he can actually drive better with a few drinks inside.

The bigger question is how to stop marijuana use. The DEA agents who raided this home, could raid similar homes everyday, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and still the marijuana would grow. Which is why there may need to be a huge strategic change in our so-called drug war. Anti-smoking campaigns work for tobacco. Why won’t they work for marijuana?
That should really be the focus of our efforts. We shouldn’t be laughing at the lame jokes from comedians talking about harmless weed; we shouldn’t allow rappers to glorify the wonders of living high. If nothing else, we should be telling our children that no matter what it is, putting smoke into your lungs is unhealthy, uncool and in the case of pot, a first step towards a life of a loser.

OK all you pot heads, let me hear it!

ivegottheganjaplant · 06-19-2009, 08:44 AM

Are you surprised? It's Fox. Fair and Balanced is complete bullshit. Though CNN is pretty anti-marijuana too. Just get your news from MSNBC :P

JohnDoeRadio · 06-19-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ivegottheganjaplant

Are you surprised? It's Fox. Fair and Balanced is complete bullshit. Though CNN is pretty anti-marijuana too. Just get your news from MSNBC :P

MSNBC?!?!?! you listed the worst news network out of all of em.

they make up news as they go at msnbc.

i knew this thread would pull me in.

lol

seriously, stay the F away from msnbc. fox and cnn are encyclopedias compared to msnbc.

ivegottheganjaplant · 06-19-2009, 09:02 AM

Eh, I'm biased. MSNBC doesn't make up news, they just report their side of it. At least the people at MSNBC are intelligent, unlike people like Glenn Beck or Bill O'reilly.

JohnDoeRadio · 06-19-2009, 09:13 AM

glenn beck is a very intelligent man and probably a shining light at fox. he is a libertarian and he is pretty down to earth on most things. with that said, i did tear him a new one a lil on a few JDR shows for his flip flopping on marijuana reform.

bill o'reilly. well. just speaks for himself. he is insane.

and msnbc with a sports caster, who is one of the greatest sportscasters ever and should have stayed at it, and a biased political activistas their lead analysts fails to be a viable and trusted news source in any way. they even pulled olbermann and matthews off the air as anchors during the late stages of the election because they were so biased in their reporting. MSNBC has literally been caught making up news, or not caring enough to properly run it through the proper channels. Just one example...

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MSNBC retracts false Palin story; others duped - USATODAY.com

ivegottheganjaplant · 06-19-2009, 09:19 AM

Glenn Beck a shining light? Glenn Beck is crazy. Part of this may be political ideology differences between us, but in my opinion Glenn Beck is the single worst analyst on Fox.

And I'm sorry, put Rachel Maddow against any one of the Fox analysts in an intelligent debate, in which both parties are allowed to talk, and Rachel will destroy any of them.

Also, read that article you linked to. It was a story that they mistakenly aired before vetting it fully, and retracted within minutes. I wouldn't call that "making up news."

JohnDoeRadio · 06-19-2009, 10:15 AM

look up all the other crap that msnbc has ran with its a horrible network period.

and thats why they are on the bottom of the ratings list every time.

WhiteHotAfterburner · 06-21-2009, 11:15 AM

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Marijuana smoke is a carcinogen, California board rules

By April Dembosky
Mercury News
Posted: 06/19/2009 12:39:11 PM PDT
Updated: 06/19/2009 11:04:03 PM PDT

Joints and baggies sold at California's medical marijuana dispensaries will soon carry a new warning label. Next to tags like "Purple Haze" and "White Widow" will be the advisory: Contents may cause cancer when smoked.

On Friday, California added marijuana smoke to its official list of known carcinogens, joining the ranks of arsenic, asbestos and DDT. Pot brownies, lollipops and other non-inhalables are not affected by the new ruling.

Scientists found the pungent smoke shares many of the same harmful properties as tobacco smoke, warranting its inclusion on the Proposition 65 warning list. The law requires the state to publish a list of chemicals known to cause cancer or reproductive toxicity, and businesses and government agencies must post warnings when they use such chemicals or sell products containing them.

"Marijuana smoke is a mixture of different chemicals, and a number of those were already on the Prop. 65 list," said Allan Hirsch, chief deputy director of the state Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment, which made the designation.

From a health perspective, pot advocates say the ruling was not surprising, given the state's track record on documenting the harmful effects of all kinds of smoke inhalation. However, some are worried about its political implications as advocates attempt to legalize recreational use of marijuana.

"I definitely have concerns about law enforcement and politicians who aren't in favor of medical marijuana or law reform, who would use this designation to further restrict access," said Allen St. Pierre, executive director of NORML, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Law, based in Washington, D.C. "This will be a vexing series of conversations and negotiations."

Though marijuana smoke was added to the list Friday, the labeling requirements won't go into effect until June 19, 2010. Only medical marijuana dispensaries with 10 employees or more are required to post a warning either in their shop or on the products themselves. Violations of the law carry a fine up to $2,500 a violation per day.

The panel of scientists at the state Office of Environmental Health Hazards Assessment reviewed an extensive body of research finding links between marijuana smoke and cancer, particularly head and neck cancers.

"There's not one single piece of evidence that was a slam dunk," said Dr. George Alexeeff, deputy director for scientific affairs at the OEHHA. "But the pieces together form a very compelling argument."

The panel did not consider studies showing medical benefits of marijuana, like reducing nausea and restoring appetite after chemotherapy or slowing the progression of glaucoma.

"Singling out marijuana is gratuitous," said Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, who introduced a bill to legalize recreational marijuana. "Many, many symptoms of disease can be alleviated through smoking marijuana."

St. Pierre says the ruling may factor into the larger philosophical debate about the role public health officials may play in adult choices. He hopes the national conversation will turn to minimizing the harmful consequences of smoking pot, rather than aiming for a utopian drug-free society.

Because the ruling highlighted the harmful effects of smoking pot, St. Pierre believes it may accelerate what he calls the "pharmaceuticalization" of the drug: marijuana pills, arm patches, under-tongue sprays and suppositories. His organization has even paid for studies showing the benefits of the vaporizer, a device that heats marijuana to a very high temperature to release THC, the active substance in marijuana, in a vapor that is cleaner and more pure than smoke.

"In years to come, kids won't be smoking blunts or bongs, they're going to be vaporizing," he said, remembering a young man who recently asked to take his photo with him. "He wore a T-shirt that said 'Got Vape?' "

Marijuana smoke is a carcinogen, California board rules - San Jose Mercury News

Should we expect a thread shitting all over, exhibiting hatred for, California?

Take care,
WHAB

JohnDoeRadio · 06-21-2009, 03:13 PM

what are you talking about man?

DBoone · 06-21-2009, 03:17 PM

they all suck msnbc super dem channel, fox news super repub, and cnn i dont know which side they are on but they suck just as hard.

cooldaddyo · 06-21-2009, 10:01 PM

Isn't most of the media infected a bit?

I think the downfall of the media in general is journalist taking up arms so to speak, in this war over wheather or not to legislate rightousness and morality. The problem is we all have differing opinions on what that means.

There are alot of things that I believe are wrong in the eyes of man that God may verry well see in a different light and visa versa.

And this whole thing of trying to

"help people"

whether they want it or not.

cooldaddyo · 06-22-2009, 04:04 AM

Willie Nelson was just playing with the Little Rockers on fox
Huckabee has people from both sides but makes his views clear.
He seams to have great Ideas on how to coexist in peace and harmony and I believe what he is doing may fit him better than being pres.
I think he incinuated that he was kinda glad he lost.

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