Exposed: The Myth That Psychiatry Has Proven That Homosexual Behavior Is Normal

Torog · 10-02-2008, 01:01 PM

Exposed: The Myth That Psychiatry Has Proven That Homosexual Behavior Is Normal

In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed homosexuality as a mental disorder from the APA's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual Of Mental Disorders (DSM-II).

This decision was a significant victory for homosexual activists, and they have continued to claim that the APA based their decision on new scientific discoveries that proved that homosexual behavior is normal and should be affirmed in our culture.

This is false and part of numerous homosexual urban legends that have infiltrated every aspect of our culture. The removal of homosexuality as a mental disorder has given homosexual activists credibility in the culture, and they have demanded that their sexual behavior be affirmed in society.
What Really Happened?

Numerous psychiatrists over the past decades have described what forces were really at work both inside and outside of the American Psychiatric Association-and what led to the removal of homosexuality as a mental disorder.

Dr. Ronald Bayer explains how homosexual activists captured the APA for political gain.
Dr. Ronald Bayer, a pro-homosexual psychiatrist has described what actually occurred in his book, Homosexuality and American Psychiatry: The Politics of Diagnosis. (1981)

In Chapter 4, "Diagnostic Politics: Homosexuality and the American Psychiatric Association," Dr. Bayer says that the first attack by homosexual activists against the APA began in 1970 when this organization held its convention in San Francisco. Homosexual activists decided to disrupt the conference by interrupting speakers and shouting down and ridiculing psychiatrists who viewed homosexuality as a mental disorder. In 1971, homosexual activist Frank Kameny worked with the Gay Liberation Front collective to demonstrate against the APA's convention. At the 1971 conference, Kameny grabbed the microphone and yelled, "Psychiatry is the enemy incarnate. Psychiatry has waged a relentless war of extermination against us. You may take this as a declaration of war against you."

Homosexuals forged APA credentials and gained access to exhibit areas in the conference. They threatened anyone who claimed that homosexuals needed to be cured.

Kameny had found an ally inside of the APA named Kent Robinson who helped the homosexual activist present his demand that homosexuality be removed from the DSM. At the 1972 convention, homosexual activists were permitted to set up a display booth, entitled "Gay, Proud and Healthy."

Kameny was then permitted to be part of a panel of psychiatrists who were to discuss homosexuality. The effort to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM was the result of power politics, threats, and intimidation, not scientific discoveries.

Prior to the APA's 1973 convention, several psychiatrists attempted to organize opposition to the efforts of homosexuals to remove homosexual behavior from the DSM. Organizing this effort were Drs. Irving Bieber and Charles Socarides who formed the Ad Hoc Committee Against the Deletion of Homosexuality from DSM-II.

The DSM-II listed homosexuality as an abnormal behavior under section "302. Sexual Deviations." It was the first deviation listed.
After much political pressure, a committee of the APA met behind closed doors in 1973 and voted to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM-II. Opponents of this effort were given 15 minutes to protest this change, according to Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, in Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth. Satinover writes that after this vote was taken, the decision was to be voted on by the entire APA membership. The National Gay Task Force purchased the APA's mailing list and sent out a letter to the APA members urging them to vote to remove homosexuality as a disorder. No APA member was informed that the mailing had been funded by this homosexual activist group.

According to Satinover, "How much the 1973 APA decision was motivated by politics is only becoming clear even now. While attending a conference in England in 1994, I met a man who told me an account that he had told no one else. He had been in the gay life for years but had left the lifestyle. He recounted how after the 1973 APA decision, he and his lover, along with a certain very highly placed officer of the APA Board of Trustees and his lover, all sat around the officer's apartment celebrating their victory. For among the gay activists placed high in the APA who maneuvered to ensure a victory was this man-suborning from the top what was presented to both the membership and the public as a disinterested search for truth."
Dr. Socarides Speaks Out

Dr. Satinover shows how APA's policies were influcenced by closeted homosexual APA leaders.
Dr. Charles Socarides has set the record straight on how homosexuals inside and outside of the APA forced this organization to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder. This was done without any valid scientific evidence to prove that homosexuality is not a disordered behavior.
Dr. Socarides, writing in Sexual Politics and Scientific Logic: The Issue of Homosexuality writes: "To declare a condition a 'non-condition,' a group of practitioners had removed it from our list of serious psychosexual disorders. The action was all the more remarkable when one considers that it involved an out-of-hand and peremptory disregard and dismissal not only of hundreds of psychiatric and psychoanalytic research papers and reports, but also a number of other serious studies by groups of psychiatrists, psychologists, and educators over the past seventy years…"
Socarides continued: "For the next 18 years, the APA decision served as a Trojan horse, opening the gates to widespread psychological and social change in sexual customs and mores. The decision was to be used on numerous occasions for numerous purposes with the goal of normalizing homosexuality and elevating it to an esteemed status.

"To some American psychiatrists, this action remains a chilling reminder that if scientific principles are not fought for, they can be lost-a disillusioning warning that unless we make no exceptions to science, we are subject to the snares of political factionalism and the propagation of untruths to an unsuspecting and uninformed public, to the rest of the medical profession, and to the behavioral sciences." Dr. Socarides' report is available from the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality: NARTH Home Page.
THE IMPORTANCE OF THE DSM

The DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) is the most widely used diagnostic reference book utilized by mental health professionals in the United States.

It's a manual by which all diagnostic codes are derived for diagnosis and treatment - every single physician (an estimated 850,000*) in the United States refers to this book in order to code for a diagnosis. In plain English, what does this mean? It means that for over 30 years physicians have been prevented from properly diagnosing homosexuality as an aberrant behavior and thus, cannot, recommend a course of treatment for these individuals.

Prior to that time, homosexuality had been treated as a mental disorder under section "302. Sexual Deviations" in the DSM-II. Section 302 said, in part: "This category is for individuals whose sexual interests are directed primarily toward objects other than people of the opposite sex, toward sexual acts … performed under bizarre circumstances. … Even though many find their practices distasteful, they remain unable to substitute normal sexual behavior for them." Homosexuality was listed as the first sexual deviation under 302. Once that diagnostic code for homosexuality was removed, physicians, including psychiatrists, have been prevented from diagnosing homosexuality as a mental disorder for more than three decades.

*American Medical Association statistic, 2002.

Torog · 10-02-2008, 01:17 PM

Howdy Y'all,

I almost forgot the TeeBox rule.

It seems that my suspicions were correct,the removal of homosexuality from the APA DSM list,was the result of political pressure,not scientific fact.

IMHO,traditional families are the building blocks of a healthy and robust society,not sexual subcultures raised to an esteemed status.

Have a good one ...

heartguy · 10-02-2008, 03:01 PM

I just don't believe it torog. I know too many gay people who want to just be left alone to live their lifes. They have no agenda, no other motives behind their unions, just some rights and to be left alone.
That's just from my observations

heart

Torog · 10-02-2008, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heartguy

I just don't believe it torog. I know too many gay people who want to just be left alone to live their lifes. They have no agenda, no other motives behind their unions, just some rights and to be left alone.
That's just from my observations

heart

Howdy heart,

I know it's difficult to accept the facts of the situation,upon learning this morning,just how it was that homosexuality was removed from the DSM,it further convinces me that militant homosexuals are indeed a threat to the fabric of society,the homosexuals that you know and describe,are not as much of threat and I have far less of a problem with them,because they ain't in the principal's office or at the school board meeting,trying to convince their local educators that 5 year old children need to learn about sex before they can even read.

Have a good one ...

heartguy · 10-02-2008, 03:27 PM

Sex education of childern should be left to the parents to teach, not a teacher in any school. Parents need to except the responsibilites of being a parent, not push it off on some teacher. They want teachers to do it so they can push the blame off on them when anything goes wrong. How sad

heart

Jabberwocky · 10-02-2008, 03:32 PM

what you posted seems to be a story of how homosexuality was removed from diagnosis as a mental disorder............i see nothing there that is study on what causes this "disorder"

JohnDoeRadio · 10-02-2008, 05:58 PM

THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SPIN

Its disgusting Turog, and i plea for you to drop this agenda in these forums before somebody gets really offended or hurt about what you are posting.

Id say its border line HATE SPEECH now. And even though ill die to protect it, it has its time and place. Here and now are not it.

If i was gay, and you accused me of doing so because im a deviant, and said i could choose to get with the ladies and be happy, id be quite angry with you to say the least...

What you found was an article that someone wrote who was anti-gay, understood the gays were now accepted in medical community as "normal", hence the removal of the "gayness" from the mental disorder list. Then you get some whack that will spin it without thought of another human being they are talking about. You can go line by line in this stupid piece you posted and un-spin the spin and take a whole different SCIENTIFIC angle that fits. And the least of which are the facts from the early 70's that this person spouts, and since we have come quite a long way in medicine and psychiatry since the 70's, ill take today's facts as the word T.

THe bottom line is, Gays were removed from this list because they could not find the same reasons and chemical, physical builds they do with other signature disorders. Because they scientists and doctors came to a decent conclusion being gay wasnt a "mental problem" and some kind of lifestyle choice. normal or not, it wasnt fair to include it in the crazy list.

I dont know how much more to actually explain all this without going through the thing line by line and citing studies to disprove it. Its def not worth my time to try and change your mind. I just hope others see through the BS, and spin.

Wesley_Pipes · 10-02-2008, 05:58 PM

Torog why do you hate on people different from you so much?

halffoot · 10-03-2008, 04:28 AM

If someone declared being a texan was a mental disorder, wouldn't you do everything in your power to change that? Homosexuality is part of who they are, and you provide no proof that it is a mental disorder. Did they achieve their victory in the APA with political pressure? Possibly. But that doesn't change the fact that there are no studies listed here or anywhere else I've read that have said all homosexuals are mentally ill and as such, homosexuality should be listed as a disorder.

JDR's right, the spin on this is so hard it makes me dizzy to look at it.

DonnieDarko · 10-03-2008, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnDoeRadio

THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SPIN

No ... it's another example of cowardice, lies, and hate.

Torog · 10-03-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnDoeRadio

THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SPIN

Its disgusting Turog, and i plea for you to drop this agenda in these forums before somebody gets really offended or hurt about what you are posting.

Id say its border line HATE SPEECH now. And even though ill die to protect it, it has its time and place. Here and now are not it.

If i was gay, and you accused me of doing so because im a deviant, and said i could choose to get with the ladies and be happy, id be quite angry with you to say the least...

What you found was an article that someone wrote who was anti-gay, understood the gays were now accepted in medical community as "normal", hence the removal of the "gayness" from the mental disorder list. Then you get some whack that will spin it without thought of another human being they are talking about. You can go line by line in this stupid piece you posted and un-spin the spin and take a whole different SCIENTIFIC angle that fits. And the least of which are the facts from the early 70's that this person spouts, and since we have come quite a long way in medicine and psychiatry since the 70's, ill take today's facts as the word T.

THe bottom line is, Gays were removed from this list because they could not find the same reasons and chemical, physical builds they do with other signature disorders. Because they scientists and doctors came to a decent conclusion being gay wasnt a "mental problem" and some kind of lifestyle choice. normal or not, it wasnt fair to include it in the crazy list.

I dont know how much more to actually explain all this without going through the thing line by line and citing studies to disprove it. Its def not worth my time to try and change your mind. I just hope others see through the BS, and spin.

Howdy JDR,

How do you 'spin' actual actions ? Are ya saying it ain't true that homosexual activists siezed the microphone at the conference ? That they set up a booth ? How about when homosexual activists recently invaded a catholic church service out there in California and it was caught on camera ? Do you think it was staged by actors pretending to invade the church ? If yer caught on camera,speeding through a red light,are ya gonna accuse the cops of 'spinning' the photo to make you look like ya sped through the red light ? Give me a break !

As for studies that demonstrate that homosexuality is a mental disorder,they're so numerous and the content so large,that the servers here couldn't handle them all,go to the links,like NARTH and read for yerself.

The facts are the facts,you can call it 'spin' all ya want..it ain't gonna change the facts of this article and what happened at the conference,the fact that there were closeted homosexuals on the board,is a fact and their involvement was entirely biased and pre-disposed to their agenda.

I don't want to post these kinds of articles,but I'm also gittin sick and tired of being told that all I do is spin the facts and that I'm just a hate-monger because I don't approve every little aspect of the gay agenda..y'all know dang well that I believe God when He said that homosexuality is an abomination in His Eye's and y'all know dang well,that humanity reproduces heterosexually,that makes homosexuality,an aberration - not a normal sexual aspect for a heterosexually reproducing species.

Did you know that even communists realized that the promotion of homosexuality and sexual subcultures,was a way to tear apart the fabric of American society ? If homosexuals are elevated to an esteemed status in any given community,how will that community continue to grow and function ? If there are no 'breeders' left,wouldn't the community die off ?

I don't like having to post these articles that upset everyone so much,but I'll be danged if I will swallow the propaganda of the militant gays who do want to entirely re-shape society to accomodate their sexual subculture.just so we can all git along. I refuse to be politically-correct,for y'all's edification and the silent ,moral majority,will back me on this,if only they would speak up - dang it.

The bottom line is this,when militant gays took their agenda into the schools,they pissed in their cornflakes and now the battle is on. When militant gays invade private church services,that's crossing the line as well-enuff is enuff !

Have a good one ...

Torog · 10-03-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halffoot

If someone declared being a texan was a mental disorder, wouldn't you do everything in your power to change that? Homosexuality is part of who they are, and you provide no proof that it is a mental disorder. Did they achieve their victory in the APA with political pressure? Possibly. But that doesn't change the fact that there are no studies listed here or anywhere else I've read that have said all homosexuals are mentally ill and as such, homosexuality should be listed as a disorder.

JDR's right, the spin on this is so hard it makes me dizzy to look at it.

Howdy halffoot,

Lol..Texans have long been regarded as being crazy,by yankee's,city slickers and liberals on the coasts..lol..don't ya know this here's fly-over country ?

This article wasn't to prove that homosexuality is a mental disorder,but rather to refute Lulu's claim that it was removed from the DSM,because of medical facts,when in fact-it was a political move.

I reckon what's needed is to find a list of links for you to peruse,because a true study would be too large for me to post here.

What's really happening here,is that I'm being subjected to intense pc-ism,to git me to hop onboard the homosexual agenda express train and reject all of my Christian beliefs..so we can all git along.

Have a good one ...

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