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Old 03-23-2007, 05:02 AM   #1
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Moving away from America!!

I would just like to say first off that I am usually a very positive person and a damn hard worker. Saying this though sometime I lose my temper. Such is the case tonight. So here's the story.
Today I applied for a job on the computer at JcPenny's and got turned down. Not because I did a horrible interview or because I am incapable of doing the job. No, I got turned down because of the damn personality quiz at the end of the application. I had no idea it was a quiz, I thought it was an opinion survey, which isn't surprising since that is what it said on the application. I should have saw that coming but that is beside my point. I"m upset because since when can a computer tell me how qualified for a job I am. Has this country become so dependant upon computers that they now decide who is eligible for hire and who isn't. Whatever happened to a one on one interview with the manager and they decide if you are eligible for hire. If this is how we are doing things in America now I'm scared for what may come for our future. So I have decided that as soon as I can I will be moving to somewhere in Europe. I'm done with this country with all of its bullshit laws, stupid and lazy people, and most of all how little our people care for each other. It doesn't matter to these people that I am broke and can't buy groceries. I don't even think that they realized how capable I was to do that job. I went to a very prestigous Military Institution for high school. I've done countless hours of community service, worked two jobs every summer and had a 3.6 GPA. But they didn't read my application to see that because to them I am just another number. Screw the asshole who has been working at JCPenny since he got his GED and had the nerve to tell me, "the computer says you aren't eligible for hire, but you can come back in 30 days when it resets your application and fill out another." This guy who looks as if he couldn't do simple division in his head without a calculator tells me this. America this is the type of person who is running our country. I know what your thinking, "if I have so much to bitch about why don't I fix it." Fuck it, Why should I spend countless hours to fix a broken system if I can just go to another country where I will be appreciated for working hard, and trying to better myself.
So anybody who lives overseas please tell me if you know anywhere that I can smoke pot, go to colege and watch football (american soccer) please let me know, cuz I'm in the market for a new country to call home. This ends my bitching and moaning. I must say I feel alot better now that I have got that off my chest and please don't think less of me for what I have said. I was a little upset. But I am serious about moving so every bit of information I can get will help.

Til the end,
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:44 AM   #2
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Re: Moving away from America!!

Thats just terrible man!

No matter which way you decide to go, we will welcome you here in Europe.....
If you ever need a place to stay for a few days or advice in any matter concerning your move, then let me know.....

Europe is not a heaven of cannabis or anything but from what I hear from you and other likeminded americans I think that you will find it more "free" and with a different mindset.......Ofcourse depending on where in the US you are from..

One of my best friends is married to an american woman and she says that she would never live in the US again even though her entire family lives there.....

There are ofcourse many choices depending on what you want weather wise, education wise and so on..

Scandinavia(Sweden, Norway, Denmark...and even Finland al though it is VERY north) has one of the best welfare systems(Free education, hospitals, doctors, and several unemployment offers) in the world but with a very high tax rate...
Germany is a nice country but battles unemployment at this time as far as i know..

UK moves in some directions towards the US....as far as I know there is a huge difference between being rich and being poor...Which might not be the situation in Germany, Scandinavia, Holland and other country's like em...
But I don't live there so we might wanna talk to some of the UK guys

But you will find that most european countrys has cheaper education than you are used to in the US.....

Be prepared that its a battle to get citizenship in many european countrys unless you get married to some EU girl.
Good luck with everything

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Re: Moving away from America!!

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Re: Moving away from America!!

All this because JC Penney didn't hire you? meow!!!

There are different ways to get a job. Filling out an application is just the first step. Do some research on how to impress people when looking for a job and the proper steps to land the job you want.

Hope everything works out for you.
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The grass isn't always greener on the other side. Working for corporate America sucks, but there are other jobs.
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Old 03-26-2007, 11:35 PM   #6
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Re: Moving away from America!!

Toasty I understand you were pissed off when you wrote that. Looking for a job is tough work.

I just graduated from college last December and am still working at finding a job. I graduated with a 3.5 GPA from a top 100 private University and I have a flawless background and work history. My point here is that it’s not fucking easy for anyone. Getting discouraged, depressed, or pissed off is not helping you. And if you think you’ve got problems now wait until you move to another country, that you’ve never even been to (and vacations don’t count), and find yourself handing over half your pay check to support the welfare state you now call home.

Finding work is a full time job and you have to work at it like it’s a job. Nail down your resume. I’ve written and rewritten my resume about 15 times. When you apply for a job write a resume specifically for that position and employer. When you find a job you’re qualified for look at their requirements and then in your resume list those requirements and show them how you meet or exceed those requirements. Attach a short but sweet cover letter and then move on to the next job you’re interested in applying for. You won’t be sending out hundreds of resumes that tell employers very little and more than likely won’t get noticed. You’ll be sending out one or two a day that tell employers exactly what they want to know and WILL get noticed. Shoot for entry level positions the pay will suck but if you have a strong work ethic you won’t be there for long and your pay will shoot up dramatically.

I’ve heard it said that you should plan on 30 days worth of searching for every $10,000 you want to earn (assuming you’re qualified.) So for a $30,000 job expect to spend about 3 months worth of searching.

And if JC Penny’s is so fucking thick to rely on some “personality” test. You don’t want to work there. I know that’s not an easy thing to say when you don’t have any food in your fridge but trust me you’ll find something better. And NOTHING is a “personal opinion” when it comes to finding a job. They don’t just ask you shit for no reason because they don’t have anything better to do than read how witty your answers are. Use your head and tell them what they want to hear. You can buck the system when you have job experience on your side.

Good luck to you on your search…I know how you feel.

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I graduated Cum Laude with a business degree at age 40, but by that time I was already facing age discrimination. I've also moved a couple times without having a job lined up since then and that makes job hunting all that much harder. I worked at a couple major US corporations (WalMart and AOL) that piss tested and I quit them both within a month they sucked so bad, so I abstained for nothing. As for those personality tests, just put down what you think they want to hear. They rephase and repeat some questions to see if you're staying consistent. I've never been unemployed for more than a month so sometimes you gotta take a shit job here & there.
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