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I just had a mind blowing conversation that has left me with no choice but to join this forum and share my ideas. As my user-name points out, I truly am a rookie when it comes to smoking. To be completely honest, only a few short years ago I was someone who made judgments of those who did smoke, and was extremely against the idea.

Recently I have been smoking on a more regular basis, bringing my total amount of times somewhere in the high 20's or low 30's. While I have really began to enjoy the experience of being "high" more frequently, a college roommate of mine is becoming frustrated. He is strongly against smoking, and before tonight would constantly bash me and friends for doing so. However in the back of my mind I knew where he was coming from, and I could relate to the thoughts he was experiencing.

During our conversation tonight my roommate began to realize that being "high" was not all about laughing and making jokes, being lazy, pigging out, or any other stereotype that is so commonly placed upon smokers. After a comment had been made about how "I am a bad person for smoking weed and bringing it into our house", it triggered me to speak my mind. I began to ask my roommate some questions, the type of questions that recently have been crawling around in my head.

I asked my roommate a very simple question. If you were to have 100 drunk people with loud music in one setting, while having 100 people who are "high" in another similar setting, which setting would have more problems and potential arguments or physical fights? To my surprise, the same roommate who was so adamantly against smoking marijuana said that without a doubt the room with 100 people who have smoked would be more peaceful.

Here is my problem with this issue. It makes me realize just how narrow minded I used to be, and how the vast majority of Americans truly are. Is the problem really about marijuana, and the negative side effects that come from it's use? Or could the problem be that the standardized perception of pot is that it is worse than popular "drugs" such as alcohol and tobacco? This is the message that is being installed in us, that weed is a "drug", while alcohol and tobacco are simply products. After being "high" enough times where I feel in control, and also few enough times where new thoughts being to expand my mind, I strongly believe that smoking weed is less disruptive and harmful than binge drinking.

In my opinion the issues of alcohol abuse, and alcoholism are really what our government needs to be fighting in the "war on drugs". Alcohol makes people angry and violent. Of course this does not relate to everyone, as I am sure there are instances when stoned people have been violent. The point is, who is to say that marijuana should be the drug that is targeted? Between alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana, the common perception is that pot is the "worst" of the three. All of these drugs has side effects, and all can have benefits listed by users of each drug.

My question is this, why is marijuana illegal? Is it really worse than alcohol or tobacco, or is that just the message being put in our brain? During the prohibition era, it was alcohol that suddenly became the taboo drug. If it was illegal back then, why is it legal for someone 21 years of age to use or possess now? Should anyone who is 21 years old be able to use and possess weed similar to how they can with alcohol? It's about time government takes a further look into this great "war on drugs" with marijuana, and maybe instead decide to focus on a real epidemic such as methamphetamines and other designer drugs.


Just something to think about.....

Preaching to the Choir here buddy. I agree with most of what you're saying.

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Listen up.......I got two words for you.

Smoke more!

Congratulations on finally seeing the light.

All i can say is, Here in the uk its 18 to legally drink. But me and my buddies could very easily walk into a local shop when we wer about 14-15, And at least one of us would be sold beer, If not we would just steel it anyway (this was years ago mind, my ways have changed since then) then there would be aload of wasted 15 year olds running round the streets, shouting, pissing places we shouldnt, vandalising, etc. Then going home, puking, passing out and puking some more in the morning and missing school because of it.

OR we would walk to a dealers house, put our money together for a nice bag of green, go back to one of our houses and play playstation and smoke all night.

which is worse? you decide

i used to run a nightclub many moons ago and not many people were violent through drinking back then ,but shortly after i left the job i noticed more and more designer drinks ...eg.wkd .turners hooch ,bacardi breezers etc and with the introduction of these drinks i also noticed an increase in the violence surrounding drinkers ...could these deisgner drinks be the reason for so much alcohol related violence?

i was a drunk back then ,i was never violent and neither were any of the people i knew ..but we all grew tired of drinking and weed and hash were our other `party`aids ..were all in our 40s now and most of us still toke for queen and country ,we all have respectable jobs ,we all have families ,houses ,cars and the trappings of everyday life ..i wonder how many of these youths will grow up and be able to build a family life whilst still drinking to excess


glad you saw the light ,continue to spread your words of wisdom young man ,even if weve all seen ,heard it and done it before ..its an honorable cause and path you follow

hell ya

Every "new" stoner has these thoughts my friend... and rightly so, u speak the truth as we all know, if only we could take a page out of Ali G's book (or rather his movie) and get all the world leaders stoned out their fucking brains, world peace would be achieved, weed would be legalised and things like alchohol and tobacco would be made illegal... as it is, thats just a dream, but maybe one day...

keep spreadin the good word to those with a closed mind dude, we can change the world, one mind at a time ...

and welcome to the chillest place on the net

Peace

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It is crazy that pot is illegal.. It used to be legal. Its been used for thousands of years and probably predates man on the planet.

Anyhow I know im preaching to the choir.. but I think its important for everyone to know why pot was made illegal.. Its politics, economics and racism..
If you do a search in google.. "why is marijuana illegal" you will see the truth. Its sad and frustrating.
I must hand it to the feds they did a good job of brainwashing society with the "reefer madness". It still sticks today and peeps still think MJ is really the devil's lettuce.
Another sad thing is the stupid feds and peeps dont even know why it was made illegal.. Just on the basis that made it illegal it should be overruled.. Since our country has come a long way with race relations etc..
Marijuana use isnt a underground or counterculture only pastime.. its used by millions of peeps everyday.

We in Cali voted for 215 and it past.. the law was written in a way that almost anyone can get MJ for whatever.. We voted on it and it passed.. So Feds leave us a fooking alone.. How can the feds say there is no medical value in pot.. There is a thing called self medicating and im doing it with marijuana! and that in itself makes it medication because you call it self medicating
Anyways all.. We have come a long way in MJ laws accross the states and the movement is def making a difference.. But i think its key to educate everyone on MJ's past instead of just comparing it to tobbacco and alcohol..I personally think those 2 are way worse than tokin on a green bowl.. and to that note.. Everyone Phyritup and get educated and educate others so we can all make a difference.

Peace out brudda's!

Phyritup

welcome RookieToker
contrats on finding Stoner Forums
there is also a link for NORMAL
just think, some people get 3 or more shots at a DUI,
sound fair?
or get drunk, go home, and start bashin family


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hey there rookie..thx for sharin ur story an joinin us here....

hey there phyritup,,ur post i agree on..ill take this opportunity to welcome u also, to SF maybe post in the introduction thread a lil bout urselfs if ya can
catch ya around the site or in chat